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= | = Direction of VdfWiki.com = | ||
This page is for discussing the direction of vdfwiki. Feel free to provide feedback here :) --[[User:Jka|Jka]] 21:00, 13 December 2007 (CET) | |||
== Overall goal == | == Overall goal == | ||
I think VdfWiki should be a place assemble knowledge and articles in the long term (in a structured manner). | I think VdfWiki should be a place to assemble knowledge and articles in the long term (in a structured manner). [http://www.vdf-guidance.com vdf-guidance] should be used for sharing projects and code. | ||
There are some guidelines for keeping VdfWiki on the right track :[[VdfWiki_guidelines]] | There are some guidelines for keeping VdfWiki on the right track :[[VdfWiki_guidelines]] | ||
The newsgroups are still '''THE''' place to ask question and chat about current events.--[[User:Jka|Jka]] 08:28, 23 November 2007 (CET) | The newsgroups are still '''THE''' place to ask question and chat about current events.--[[User:Jka|Jka]] 08:28, 23 November 2007 (CET) | ||
== Feedback == | |||
===Common Editing Mistakes=== | |||
Something to watch for (and maybe warn against): I had occasion last night to move an article ([[Add Workspace Parameter]]) by [[User:Peter Brooks|Peter Brooks]] which he had put on the [[:Category:How To]] page; I moved it off onto its own page, but it is an easy mistake to make: just go to a Category and start editing. --[[User:Mikepeat|Mike]] 11:01, 5 December 2007 (CET) | |||
==Style Guide?== | == Wishes == | ||
===Style Guide?=== | |||
At the suggestion of [[User:Hellboy1975|Hellboy1975]] (what is that all about anyway, Matt? <g>) - see [[Talk:Web_Service_Basics]] - I have been changing the colour I am using to emphasise stuff - in this case (for now anyway) changing <span style="color:blue;">blue</span> to <span style="color:midnightblue;">midnightblue</span> to avoid confusion with hypertext links (I'm not sure that is enough - I think I've just made that text look like visited links). | At the suggestion of [[User:Hellboy1975|Hellboy1975]] (what is that all about anyway, Matt? <g>) - see [[Talk:Web_Service_Basics]] - I have been changing the colour I am using to emphasise stuff - in this case (for now anyway) changing <span style="color:blue;">blue</span> to <span style="color:midnightblue;">midnightblue</span> to avoid confusion with hypertext links (I'm not sure that is enough - I think I've just made that text look like visited links). | ||
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: [[VdfWiki_Administration#2008_Q2|A mediawiki plugin is on the way for source code formatting]] --[[User:Jka|Jka]] 14:11, 31 March 2008 (CEST) | |||
: We now have a plugin that renders vdf code (thanks to Torkild Resheim). Check the "hello world" example below --[[User:Jka|Jka]] 19:41, 8 June 2008 (CEST) | |||
<source lang="vdf"> | |||
Showln "hello world" | |||
</source> | |||
= | === Namespaces === | ||
:Actually, namespaces require modification of the LocalSettings.php file on the server I think, so adding them is non-trivial (i.e. down to somebody with OS access to the server: Jacob, Johan or Sture, etc.) and thus they are a blunter and less flexible tool than Categories, but worth thinking about, in a background sort of way. | |||
::Let's do some experimenting with namespaces when we have a backup copy of VDFWiki running on a separate machine. --[[User:Jka|Jka]] 10:10, 6 December 2007 (CET) | |||
::The backup strategy is now in place. [[VdfWiki_Administration#2008_Q2|Namespaces support is scheduled for 2008 Q2]] --[[User:Jka|Jka]] 14:13, 31 March 2008 (CEST) | |||
::Hmm.. I am trying to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grok Grok] namespaces . I take it that they will be great for integrating api descriptions do you guys have some suggestions for other namespaces that are good here? Let's try to list them here. Oh yes. I'll extend the deadline on namespaces support in vdfwiki to Q3 so we can give it some more thought. --[[User:Jka|Jka]] 19:52, 8 June 2008 (CEST) | |||
'''good ideas for namespaces''' | |||
*Class : pages about code classes | |||
*Tutorial : | |||
= | = Layout / Main Page = | ||
I'm sure you've all noticed by now I've made a bit of a change to the front page. It's more or less the same as before, just with a bit more information for users who are a bit new to the whole wiki thing. What do you guys think? [[User:Hellboy1975|Hellboy1975]] 05:21, 5 December 2007 (CET) | I'm sure you've all noticed by now I've made a bit of a change to the front page. It's more or less the same as before, just with a bit more information for users who are a bit new to the whole wiki thing. What do you guys think? [[User:Hellboy1975|Hellboy1975]] 05:21, 5 December 2007 (CET) | ||
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::I like the new approach you have taken with the new "portals" - now it is more clear that they can act as "approaches" to going into vdfwiki.com with different mindsets. Given time - and more content on vdfwiki.com I think this will be a very effective way of handling the structure on this site. --[[User:Jka|Jka]] 20:46, 13 December 2007 (CET) | ::I like the new approach you have taken with the new "portals" - now it is more clear that they can act as "approaches" to going into vdfwiki.com with different mindsets. Given time - and more content on vdfwiki.com I think this will be a very effective way of handling the structure on this site. --[[User:Jka|Jka]] 20:46, 13 December 2007 (CET) | ||
= Portals = | |||
On the main pages, in the top section where it says "Welcome to the VDFWiki" I added on the right a list of categories, which I'm implementing as portals. The ones I stuck in there (Dataflex, VDF, Web Apps, DD's, Class Reference, Tutorials, Dataflex Community and Development Tools) pretty much just came off the top of my head when I did that bit. Having a weekend to think about it, I think it's a pretty good structure, and seems to cover pretty much all the bases I can think of. Provided there's no objections, I'm going to implement each of these are portals, and then change the current Sections are on the sidebar to point to these portals. | |||
As part of this Portal conversion, I may also be editing any pages that currently resemble portals (like the current [[Visual DataFlex]] page) and making something more like a reference page. In that example the Visual Dataflex page will become more of a ''What Is'' type page. The ultimate plan to be that all pages will either be a reference type page, or some kind of tutorial, while anything that contains lists of articles gets shifted to ''Portal:'' pages. [[User:Hellboy1975|Hellboy1975]] 12:29, 9 December 2007 (CET) | |||
:How are the new portal pages supposed to work together with the "sections" in the navigation? I think the two should be integrated somehow. It would be great if we could keep sections/portals in such a narrow scope that one guy could keep track of it all (check the "section owners in [[VdfWiki:about]] ).--[[User:Jka|Jka]] 14:30, 9 December 2007 (CET) | |||
:: I agree, and already have plans for that. From the fisrt paragraph "I'm going to implement each of these are portals, and then change the current Sections are on the sidebar to point to these portals" [[User:Hellboy1975|Hellboy1975]] 22:16, 9 December 2007 (CET) | |||
== Data Dictionaries == | |||
::: I also want to add a topic on batch create/update/delete using DataDictionaries. Where would that live? Would it be a topic referenced from Web and Windows and Webservices, or should this be another section, 'Data Dictionaries'? | |||
::: I think a section about 'Data Dictionaries' could be great. I'll just add one (also containing the Databases' links from Mike --[[User:Jka|Jka]] 10:16, 25 November 2007 (CET) | |||
== Development Tools == | |||
Can I suggest that we add a new section or link on the main page for general development tools and articles that sit outside of the existing Web/Windows/WS/Console categories. [[User:Hellboy1975|Hellboy1975]] 00:07, 23 November 2007 (CET) | |||
:Sounds perfectly sensible to me... "Other" as a general catch-all, or "Other Tools": a bit more specific, but then we might have issues with things that fell outside that ''and'' our existing sections. --[[User:Mikepeat|Mike]] 00:14, 23 November 2007 (CET) | |||
:: I am OK with a "tools" section. We can still lay down the law in that page :P The trick is to create a separate page for each tool we want to describe - and keep the external links down to a minimum (this should make it easier to keep track of the content on the page). I think the title "Development tools" could work. articles not related to these sections can be attached to a specific user page - we should try not to clutter the frontpage and 1st level navigation too much. --[[User:Jka|Jka]] 08:15, 23 November 2007 (CET) | |||
= Technical / System = | |||
==Backups== | ==Backups== | ||
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:::: I now have access to a backup ip with a rather cryptic password. Nobody but me will be able to remember that - so I suppose that adresss is just for me. But -hey! now we have a offsite backup - so if our office is attacked by [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0800069/plotsummary Flesh eating mutants] we will still have the data for VdfWiki! --[[User:Jka|Jka]] 10:00, 11 December 2007 (CET) | :::: I now have access to a backup ip with a rather cryptic password. Nobody but me will be able to remember that - so I suppose that adresss is just for me. But -hey! now we have a offsite backup - so if our office is attacked by [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0800069/plotsummary Flesh eating mutants] we will still have the data for VdfWiki! --[[User:Jka|Jka]] 10:00, 11 December 2007 (CET) | ||
:::: now the backup thing is done . [[VdfWiki_backup|Notes are available here ]]. I can send backup images to any ftp-server of choice - just email me with ftp account info if you want your server added to the list --[[User:Jka|Jka]] 14:19, 31 March 2008 (CEST) | |||
= Historical = | = Historical = | ||
